Windows 10: Win10 Boot Problem on cloned SSD drive

Discus and support Win10 Boot Problem on cloned SSD drive in Windows 10 Software and Apps to solve the problem; On Feb 8 I asked this question. I have follow-on questions, but could not add to previous question. Although my Old too-small win10 PRO C:\ still works... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Software and Apps' started by JimGDFW, Apr 11, 2022.

  1. JimGDFW Win User

    Win10 Boot Problem on cloned SSD drive


    On Feb 8 I asked this question. I have follow-on questions, but could not add to previous question. Although my Old too-small win10 PRO C:\ still works perfectly, I am still unable to get my Cloned 1TB D:\ drive to boot, although the D: appears correctly cloned except for the BCD. In recent web research to solve my problem, I recently noticed information indicating that a win10 PRO installation should have only 1 active partition, regardless of number of physical drives my current system has 4+ physical drives, partitions, volumes, etc. And that 1 active partition should have a BCD Windows

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    JimGDFW, Apr 11, 2022
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  2. cadaveca Win User

    Moving to SSD. Clone or not to clone?

    Part of how I keep my SSD fast is to clone it to a platter drive, then clone back. You just want to make sure that you are only cloning teh used space, and not the empty space.


    So, again, I isntall Windows to the ssd. Clone to platter drive, then clone back.

    I am not sure why, but if I do not do the clone step, the drive's speed, and windows booting, decreases substantially within a week or so.

    I am using a Corsair F60 SSD and a Western Digital 500AAKS as drives, and using the free version of Acronis that WD provides, if any of that matters. I am not sure, at this point.
     
    cadaveca, Apr 11, 2022
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  3. Tryx3 Win User
    boot from cloned ssd installed on cd drive

    Mahesh,

    I do not know what is wrong because I do not know anything about the cloning tool you used. I suspect that the missing element might well be the MBR - this needs to be included as it is the MBR that the computer looks to in order to identify the disk to
    boot from.

    Note that my SSD did not end up with those two additional partitions before the boot partition:-


    Win10 Boot Problem on cloned SSD drive cfdc1e2c-2024-4226-a714-9db0e81427d7.jpg


    • Mine just has the System reserved partition before the boot partition. Your first one was probably called the System reserved partition on your original HDD but has lost its name in the cloning - that makes me doubt the success of the cloning procedure/tool.
    • I don't know what the original purpose of that 16MB RAW partition was.

    • I followed the procedure suggested by the regular forum contributor JWStuart at

      How to move from a smaller SSD to a larger SSD
      . I know that JWS was changing SSDs rather than replacing an HDD with an SSD but the procedure was still generally applicable.
    • I used
      Acronis TI
      to restore a system image to the SSD. It was bootable straightaway. [Acronis have always provided a free 30 day trial version that you might wish to use]
    • I used
      MiniTool Partition Wizard
      to set up "partition alignment" / "partition offset" but that was definitely used in setting up afterwards [the SSD booted beforehand with no problems].

    The only sensible suggestion I can make is that you repeat the whole procedure using JWS's guide and basing it on a system image of your HDD that is restored to the SSD.

    You might also benefit from changing the title of your question [click on the blue
    Edit control just underneath the question]. If you call it something like
    Cloned SSD does not boot then you are more likely to attract the attention of those skilled in this subject such as JWStuart.

    Best of luck,

    Denis
     
    Tryx3, Apr 11, 2022
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  4. Tryx3 Win User

    Win10 Boot Problem on cloned SSD drive

    boot from cloned ssd installed on cd drive

    I have to assume that the cloning software you used made the SSD bootable. You can only confirm that by checking the software's documentation and confirming that you followed the procedure correctly.

    I also assume that you have made a system image of the HDD. I also assume that you made a Recovery drive or a System repair disk unless you have an installation disk [which can also do the same job]. You will need this if the cloning has not worked correctly
    and you need to restore your system.

    The BIOS might not be capable of booting from a SSD/HDD in the CD bay. Whilst that can be a convenient location for doing the cloning, you will almost certainly need to remove the original HDD and fit the SSD
    in its bay instead.

    Put the old HDD in a USB enclosure so that it can be used as a storage drive but do not connect it to the computer while you are trying to get the SSD to boot. Bootable HDDs & SSDs have "signatures" that the system will look for during booting and finding
    multiple signatures will confuse it & probably stop it booting at all.

    If, when the SSD has proved itself, you decide to fit the old HDD in the CD bay as an onboard additional storage drive then you will need to format it first so hold off on this until you are completely confident in the SSD.

    - - - - - - - - -

    When I did this job last year, I used Acronis TI to "clone" to the SSD. Actually, what I did was use Acronis TI to restore a system image to the SSD. That is, in effect, cloning it but I thought that it would be a more reliable way of doing it as TI system
    images are tolerant of changed hardware being found.

    • I put the SSD in the CD bay to do the image restoration.
    • I removed the old HDD and put the SSD in its bay.
    • The SSD booted correctly.
    • After a while, I reformatted the old HDD and fitted it in the CD bay as an onboard additional storage drive.

    Best of luck,

    Denis
     
    Tryx3, Apr 11, 2022
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